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9 months 2 days ago #3637 by Paul Conway
Paul Conway created the topic: If you see STRUCTURE & DESIGN then as CARL SAGAN once said...
You have found CIVILIZATION.

So WHY do others not see that which I & others see OUT THERE?

Is it still the case that people are not willing to explore the possibilities that there are OTHER SPECIES out there? and that with this comes STRUCTURE & DESIGN left by them? or perhaps even by a species that began here on EARTH (long before us) that ventured to the moons, the planets & stars? some it would seem closer to us.

I showed my father & sister & others this video I posted for you folks yesterday...And ALL AGREED (like I) that what we were seeing here were NOT ROCKS & we think this was NOT any kind of SPACE DEBRIS of a human kind (well not that of the time...early 1970's) you know from previous APOLLO missions & the like...SO WHAT IS IT?

TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELVES...and we shall continue with that thought afterwards.

Just fast forward to 6 HOURS, 4 MINUTES & 10 SECONDS and then simply marvel at this STRUCTURE & DESIGN back there on the MOON resting on the side of that mountain up ahead...watch it all the way through & just listen to the rather interesting conversation between MISSION CONTROL & the Astronauts (one of which is the commander of the mission GENE CERNAN) it's rather amusing...confusing this thing for the FLAG close to them.



Ok, so you've seen it? What did you make of it?

For starters...THIS IS NOT THE FLAG (that is 10 meters away from them) but this....YOU SAW THE ZOOMED IN & BACK to the ROVER shot right?

Well this ARTIFACT (for yes he was right the first time but probably shouldn't have called attention to it as the astronauts pause seemed (at least to me) to indicate SURPRISE? I think he quickly understood this) is not THE FLAG he tried to describe it away as :whistle: :lol: BLESS HIM.
He quickly tells them to PRESS ON...he is I would say a little AGITATED.

OK, so I desperately hold on to the believe that folks here...READING THIS...are of above average intelligence & are at least capable of TRYING to WORK things out for themselves.

So what we have here is a posting from nearly 20 months ago on YOUTUBE which appears to be GENUINE NASA 'Apollo 17' footage but perhaps because of it's length in time of 8 HOURS it has ONLY (to date) 816 views!!!
As I have suggested previously, sadly people are not really interested in SPACE DISCOVERY, I have sadly come to that realization now & it is WHY LM1 will probably not succeed in this mission...folks are interested in having their DATA (photo's video, messages) and even DNA up here on the MOON but as to DISCOVERIES on such things...NOPE & I just find this really rather SAD.

So how far away would you folks suggest this is away from these astronauts?
That's quiet a ZOOM...and at 6 HOURS, 06 MINUTES & 48 SECONDS it's zoomed back so we can now see THE ROVER & that thing back there on the MOUNTAIN of the MOON which is now but just a DOT in the same shot...NOT 10 Meters away is it ;)
Even in the ROVER it would probably take them a few minutes to get there!
If that were EARTH & Mr BOLT was ready to sprint there I dare say it would take him some time too :lol: so what do you folks think? it clearly looks a lot further than say the 100 metre sprint, 200 meters away? that's half an athletics track distance?
I'd have a guess at perhaps a little further away, 300 to 400 meters away perhaps...you? go on shock me & join in.

Now another QUESTION is HOW BIG is this ARTIFACT?
You see the mountains of the moon around the astronauts around them where they are! well if they were to travel there? :whistle: OH COME ON! it's right there ON THE MOON!!! your telling me they didn't hop on the Rover & check this THING OUT?
Of course they did, it's a HUGE Structure with some Design (had to get that phrase in :P ) SO WHERE are the PHOTOGRAPHS & the VIDEO FOOTAGE of it? NOTHING! WHY? it's SOMETHING STRANGE.

HOW BIG? Ok it's a little difficult to judge without really being there but it's clearly rather large, but how large? bigger than their ROVER? I would say for SURE on that one, bigger than a TRUCK? I would think we are not too far away with the size of a TRUCK, could be a little but bigger but it's no truck so then we come to...

WHAT IS IT?

The strange thing about it is THE DESIGN, it does not look like DEBRIS (although I am sure if NASA were asked about this they'd probably come up with such an answer...hey, it's better than ICE CRYSTALS right?) & if it's ROCK / ROCKS then it's one strange arrangement.
IT IS NOT ROCKS imho.

I took photographs of this image, cropped them, slightly lightened them & using the ZOOM function it's an EXCITING FIND on the MOON.

First...it's got COLOUR...you can see that from the off, there is an orange? gold? copper like colour to it marking out as completely different to ANYTHING around it both in colour, size & shape.
COLOUR? for now let's say a coppery gold, SIZE? slightly bigger than a TRUCK?
As for SHAPE? you can see it here but my photo's show something which is to my eyes & those that I have shown it to UNNATURAL.

THIS THING WAS MADE...it does not look like ROCK to me? I would like to think most of you reading this would concur with that right?
So what is it made of? that COLOUR is STRANGE & STRIKING.
SHAPE WISE? I will start over on this right hand side...it's the LONG part of this STRUCTURE heading to the left hand side.
This part looks to be somewhat similar to a WALL, slightly CURVED, so with that you'd think perhaps? a BUILDING? a MOONBASE? OBSERVATION POST? curiously about midway along as travel from it's right hand edge to the left hand side there is what looks to be 2 curved strcutures attached to it at this point...AN ENTRANCE? my word, if it was & these guys (ASTRONAUTS) headed over there & were able to get inside WHAT DID THEY WITNESS? or FIND? this is the kind of EPIC EXPORATIONAL FIND you surely HOPE FOR when venturing away from OUR PLANET right? but it's all kept on the hush hush...how SAD.

Again, I would ask you...THIS THING IS CLEARLY UP THERE right? and they must have INVESTIGATED IT right? so WHY NO PICTURES? or CLOSE UP VIDEO FOOTAGE?
If this were natural we'd have seen it on the APOLLO 17 ARCHIVE...it's NOT! your not stupid (I do believe that) in which case you have your reason WHY this was never seen In such media...IT IS SOMETHING AMAZING & EARTH SHATTERING, imho.

This STRUCTURE continues until we come to what I original said looked like a HORSE SHOE or OMEGA symbol looking section to the outer left hand sided edge.
WHAT's interesting is that this part of the structure is UNIFORM...there IS an opening at the centre of this part & the two left & right hand sides of it are CURVED around it ATTACHED to a CENTRAL bulbus section so as you can see there is SOME DESIGN to this THING ;)
It DOES appear to be connected to this longer section but CURIOUSLY is RAISED off the MOON's surface...INTERESTING!
It could be a CRAFT, a SHIP, a form of TRANSPORT but for the moment I would say this is either a BUILDING / A BASE of some sort or it's the kind of thing you might see in say EGYPT a work of ART of some kind perhaps?

WHAT is this left hand sided RAISED section? could it be a DISH? angled upwards? perhaps a small GETAWAY Emergency or Exploration SHIP? a piece of EQUIPMENT? or is it simply part of the overall DESIGN?

In the photo's I have (SORRY...Lunar Mission One's FORUMS here NO LONGER ALLOWS folks to UPLOAD prove in the way of PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE...funny that huh?) you get to see it closer...the shadows are interesting...this LONGER AREA facing us is it appears completely in SHADOW but the top of this WALL like STRUCTURE is in light.

I find the CONVERSATION on this VIDEO rather telling but feel free to disagree?

They know it's there...the camera was already in position when that astronaut finally walks out of frame & they were QUICK to ZOOM in & then OUT & then try to a better picture (Camera wobble)

I will ALWAYS come back to the OBVIOUS QUESTION (and I have said it of other things too...this is the Mission (APOLLO 17) in which they landed right next to a CRATER that has what looks something like a Castle like STRUCTURE stretching across it from side to the other complete with ARCHWAYS, turrets & a SQUARE AREA Enclosure) WHERE ARE THESE PHOTOGRAPHS? and VIDEO?

If they are Natural? surely they would have shown us & stated what a GREAT DISCOVERY....nothing! and yet these are CURIOUS THINGS, why would you NOT take such evidence of GREAT NATURAL STRUCTURES...this one in the video? if somehow it is SPACE JUNK / DEBRIS? it isn't but if it is WHY would you not head up there, check it out & have a photo of an Astronaut standing beside it?

BECAUSE it's not any such thing, NONE of these are of NATURAL MEANS, i'm no SHERLOCK but it's fairly OBVIOUS right?

They have both photographic & video evidence of both these STRUCTURES...
THIS back there seen here on this VIDEO & the MOON CASTLE STRUCTURE they LANDED right next too but as my sister keeps telling me YOUR NOT GOING TO SEE THEM because THEY DISCOVERED SOMETHING INCREDIBLE...now isn't that SAD.

But then again, I finally came to the conclusion that NASA was sadly not I had always thought of as a child...a SPACE DISCOVERY & EXPLORATION company for EVERYONE, it's a military arm of the UNITED STATES FORCES & more concerned about what's up there & what they can do with it & find that DESREATELY SAD.

Perhaps we should set up a NEW OPEN MINDING & FULLY HONEST 'SPACE EXPLORATION COMPANY' I would say perhaps something like LM1 but there's little chance of this?

And now I will show you that STRANGE CRAFT they also ENCOUNTERED on this MISSION (APOLLO 17)
Seriously you couldn't write it...all this is now out there & no one blinks an eye...it's as if all the HUMANS are asleep & show no interest in such things but how can you NOT find THIS PHOTO interesting?

It's an Official NASA photograph I've personally seen it in their ARCHIVE but they say nothing of it in the DESCRIPTION (except something like they were heading to such and such a place :whistle: ) the photo shows the SWISS CHEESE like object hovering above the MOON's SURFACE in front of the ROVER...the camera is trained on it, they know it's there & it can even been seen in the sights of the circular monitor on the ROVER.
It shows Triangular / Pyramid structures & if you move around to the right from that PYRAMID like object you will find AMAZINGLY something that looks like that FACIAL STRUCTURE on PLUTO (very Egyptian like I think...oh and WHAT I WOULDN'T GIVE to see that 1-2 mile high SCULPTURE on 'PLUTO'...well NASA are heading back there soon! so they saw enough to interest them! but I bet we don't get to see the photo's of it when they finally land there on PLUTO)

THE SECRETS THEY KEEP are AMAZING...and here you are only getting a GLIMPSE of them.
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9 months 2 days ago - 9 months 2 days ago #3638 by Paul Conway
Paul Conway replied the topic: If you see STRUCTURE & DESIGN then as CARL SAGAN once said...
3.bp.blogspot.com/-tmUgYFE8rfY/Ucap7U1yV...olie,+Apollo,+HR.jpg

Same OBJECT but closer...and if you don't think this IS WEIRD & STRANGE then perhaps I am the ONLY HUMAN left on PLANET EARTH :ohmy:

i.ytimg.com/vi/SfHJjPja0rU/maxresdefault.jpg

Check out the PYRAMID like structure down there towards the bottom & head across to the right from this & you will see that EGYPTIAN like Sculpture of a Face!

I've previously shown you the ROCK on the MOON's surface again from this MISSION which for all the world LOOKS like a ALIEN SKULL!

But here is the commander of this mission (APOLLO 17)
moonpans.com/apollo_flown_items/a17pageCernan.jpg
GENE CERNAN.
I am not sure it is he that had the NOTEBOOK on his arm showing all those WEIRD & STRANGE STRUCTURES on it (that I've shown you previously) but if it were he & there is ANY CHANCE? to PURCHASE that page from that APOLLO 17 notebook then please let me know?

I WOULD LOVE to OWN that PAGE because it's a PAGE that had NO RIGHT to be in there.

Mr CERNAN sadly left us last year...but OH the QUESTIONS I would have LOVED to have ASKED him.

It looks like he sold off a number of the pages from this small ring binder strapped to their arms...so I WONDER where is that PAGE right now?
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9 months 2 days ago #3639 by Paul Conway
Paul Conway replied the topic: If you see STRUCTURE & DESIGN then as CARL SAGAN once said...
Thought I would POST the official NASA photo of the APOLLO 17 Moon Landing site.

That little dot (pretty much bang in the middle of this is the remains of the APOLLO 17 lander) with a small shadow being cast.

Directly below this & slightly to the left is the CRATER with that MOON CASTLE like Structure strung across it.
www.nasa.gov/images/content/369444main_lroc_apollo17_lrg.jpg
Now use the TOOLS button in your BROWSER (top right) and then scroll down to ZOOM & enlarge the image to 400%
OK, now FIND this CRATER with this STRUCTURE creating a SHADOW behind it & NOW and this is rather IMPORTANT to fully see this STRUCTURE as I describe it....TURN your LAPTOP SCREEN to the LEFT resting it with this left hand side of the screen now on the bottom...and NOW...

TAKE A LOOK and tell me that's NOT SOMETHING STRANGE?
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9 months 2 days ago #3640 by Paul Conway
Paul Conway replied the topic: If you see STRUCTURE & DESIGN then as CARL SAGAN once said...
BUT WAIT...that just can't be!!!!

You can't have a STRUCTURE like that spanning one side of a CRATER to another LOOKING like that??? it has turrets? a square forecourt AREA, ARCHWAYS??? What!!!

And see that little dot just above it & slightly to the right...well that's what remains of APOLLO 17 & they didn't VISIT this AREA?

Well there are NO photographs of it, although I did show you a little VIDEO FOOTAGE which appears to show the APOLLO 17 LANDING SITE & the camera pans around to show what appears to be high up above them a WALLED AREA? this could have been it.

WHAT DID they FIND when they went there?

In the VIDEO I showed you one of the ASTRONAUTS the specialist GEOLOGIST I think actually says something along the lines of "This thing JUST GOT REAL" as if he had finally got to grips with the enormity of the situation he had been placed in, he is later heard singing "WE'RE OFF to SEE THE WIZARD" :ohmy: the sub conscious mind huh? it plays strange tricks that can giveaway your state of mind.

I think they knew it was there & where about to go & investigate it but as my sister so often keeps telling me now...they'll not let you know or anyone.

So what are they going to do BOMB THEM OUT of EXISTANCE? oh wait a minute :dry: I think they've aleady tried that elsewhere on the MOON.

We need to get up there before NASA remove every single inch of these things up there removing them from OUR HISTORY that should be :angry: