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1 year 10 months ago #2254
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I'm old enough (fast approaching 50 now) to remember many a scientist / professor / EXPERT back in the day (around the 1970's & 80's) when i was but a child / teenager stating on camera that Mars had no water & had never ever had!
I did think even at that time, how could they know this? thanks to just Viking 1 & 2? for sure they had some knowledge but really how could they know?
Now, years later with better equipment & the likes of the Mars Rover & others we now know there WAS water on Mars covering some 20% of the planet (so not as much as on our beautiful Earth) but it was roughly as deep (up to 1 mile) and that this water stayed on the planet for longer than anticipated.
I find this VERY interesting.
Now most understand & realise that where there is water there is a good chance of LIFE (although I am still keeping to that believe of how do they really know? there could be lifeforms out there including highly intelligent forms that have perhaps never even seen water & just don't require it? although I do understand this statement as a correct assertion...'where there is water there is a good chance you'll find some form of life')
So WATER ON MARS! and there's likely to still be a good deal left there somewhere? I think we know that if we start drilling (probably not too far down either?) we'll probably find it, so the MARS settlements & BASES of the future will have probably have all they'll ever need along with any new colonies.
The Big Question is...WAS THERE LIFE ON MARS?
Somewhere deep down in our psyche I think most of us kind of think we know there was? right? will we find evidence of this? well we should (eventually), perhaps through this Mars Rover? if so will it prove to be just simple microbes? insects? plant life perhaps? why not now animals? perhaps BIG animals? similar to our own Dinosaurs? OR might (just might?) there have been creatures similar to us that evolved much earlier than we did and they set off for the stars?
That would be a DREAM really wouldn't it...a film I LOVE more with each passing viewing is "Mission to Mars" (STOP READING NOW IF YOUR EVER LIKELY TO WATCH THIS FILM & HAVEN'T DONE SO YET) in this science FICTION film it sees a martian race that needed to leave their dying planet and so ventured out to various places among the stars but also headed for our Earth (which they seeded, so in effect they are a part of us)
I will agree this is unlikely but it is NOT out of the question, WHY DO so many people (clever people) think this is impossible?
HOW DO THEY KNOW what happened on MARS way back then? on the web these days these are so many people that have sorted through these photographs & without question some things found it could be said look strange, I have not focused on Mars here because there are so many more people interested & searching it, there is much to see if you want too? but is there the perfect proof that a Martian Civilization once existed there? NO (well not released to the general public anyway) but there are certainly some curious shapes & rock formations which it could be said look to have been formed or cut (blocks) but who knows? strange if natural? and places not fully explored (you probably know the one's i'm talking about) but this WATER announcement now makes it FAR more interesting.
I really would like to think that had NASA found such things indicating an ancient MARS civilization that they would have told us? if they are no longer there? if they're still there then you can FORGET IT but if not why would they not let us know? that would be one amazing & exciting news day right? for us but especially NASA (the funding they would get???) the same goes for Antarctica? could there have been an ancient LOST civilization here? when at one time it was in a different part of the Earth with no ice/snow? YES of course there could have been, was there? unlikely, probably NOT but it's not out of the question (it's certainly the place to go keep hidden away from humans that's for sure although these days, everyone & his dog seems to be down there...WHY? can't be just because of that crack in the ice)
So, let's for arguments sake just say somehow amazingly there was once an advanced civilization upon MARS, no prove yet it's true (and it probably won't) but if there was then perhaps there might just be markers throughout our system left by them, here, there and everywhere, I am really curious about some of the shapes I found upon CERES (and that BASE? is still AMAZING to me), PLUTO is incredible! might just prove to be the most amazing complex of weirdly cut shapes ever seen but to me that small rocky outcrop looks VERY STRANGE as do a few of the surrounding areas, TITAN too is interesting and who's to say what's down there on EUROPA (well actually many now believe it's more likely than not but probably not intelligent life but ANY new life found anywhere in OUR SOLAR SYSTEM has to be an exciting find right?)
WE (the general public) have NO IDEA what's really out there & as one of the HEAD HONCHO's at NASA said (if you believe the rumoured so called off the cuff remark he made to a journalist?) YOU want a story, here's one "if you knew a fraction of what we guys (NASA) knew you'd NEVER SLEEP AGAIN" scary!
If true then they know there's stuff out there, hell, I know there's stuff out there, deep down you reading this right now knows this too but WHY the BIG scare? was he just showing off? or was there some TRUTH to it? or simply fed up with the Questions about Aliens & UFO's?
I did think even at that time, how could they know this? thanks to just Viking 1 & 2? for sure they had some knowledge but really how could they know?
Now, years later with better equipment & the likes of the Mars Rover & others we now know there WAS water on Mars covering some 20% of the planet (so not as much as on our beautiful Earth) but it was roughly as deep (up to 1 mile) and that this water stayed on the planet for longer than anticipated.
I find this VERY interesting.
Now most understand & realise that where there is water there is a good chance of LIFE (although I am still keeping to that believe of how do they really know? there could be lifeforms out there including highly intelligent forms that have perhaps never even seen water & just don't require it? although I do understand this statement as a correct assertion...'where there is water there is a good chance you'll find some form of life')
So WATER ON MARS! and there's likely to still be a good deal left there somewhere? I think we know that if we start drilling (probably not too far down either?) we'll probably find it, so the MARS settlements & BASES of the future will have probably have all they'll ever need along with any new colonies.
The Big Question is...WAS THERE LIFE ON MARS?
Somewhere deep down in our psyche I think most of us kind of think we know there was? right? will we find evidence of this? well we should (eventually), perhaps through this Mars Rover? if so will it prove to be just simple microbes? insects? plant life perhaps? why not now animals? perhaps BIG animals? similar to our own Dinosaurs? OR might (just might?) there have been creatures similar to us that evolved much earlier than we did and they set off for the stars?
That would be a DREAM really wouldn't it...a film I LOVE more with each passing viewing is "Mission to Mars" (STOP READING NOW IF YOUR EVER LIKELY TO WATCH THIS FILM & HAVEN'T DONE SO YET) in this science FICTION film it sees a martian race that needed to leave their dying planet and so ventured out to various places among the stars but also headed for our Earth (which they seeded, so in effect they are a part of us)
I will agree this is unlikely but it is NOT out of the question, WHY DO so many people (clever people) think this is impossible?
HOW DO THEY KNOW what happened on MARS way back then? on the web these days these are so many people that have sorted through these photographs & without question some things found it could be said look strange, I have not focused on Mars here because there are so many more people interested & searching it, there is much to see if you want too? but is there the perfect proof that a Martian Civilization once existed there? NO (well not released to the general public anyway) but there are certainly some curious shapes & rock formations which it could be said look to have been formed or cut (blocks) but who knows? strange if natural? and places not fully explored (you probably know the one's i'm talking about) but this WATER announcement now makes it FAR more interesting.
I really would like to think that had NASA found such things indicating an ancient MARS civilization that they would have told us? if they are no longer there? if they're still there then you can FORGET IT but if not why would they not let us know? that would be one amazing & exciting news day right? for us but especially NASA (the funding they would get???) the same goes for Antarctica? could there have been an ancient LOST civilization here? when at one time it was in a different part of the Earth with no ice/snow? YES of course there could have been, was there? unlikely, probably NOT but it's not out of the question (it's certainly the place to go keep hidden away from humans that's for sure although these days, everyone & his dog seems to be down there...WHY? can't be just because of that crack in the ice)
So, let's for arguments sake just say somehow amazingly there was once an advanced civilization upon MARS, no prove yet it's true (and it probably won't) but if there was then perhaps there might just be markers throughout our system left by them, here, there and everywhere, I am really curious about some of the shapes I found upon CERES (and that BASE? is still AMAZING to me), PLUTO is incredible! might just prove to be the most amazing complex of weirdly cut shapes ever seen but to me that small rocky outcrop looks VERY STRANGE as do a few of the surrounding areas, TITAN too is interesting and who's to say what's down there on EUROPA (well actually many now believe it's more likely than not but probably not intelligent life but ANY new life found anywhere in OUR SOLAR SYSTEM has to be an exciting find right?)
WE (the general public) have NO IDEA what's really out there & as one of the HEAD HONCHO's at NASA said (if you believe the rumoured so called off the cuff remark he made to a journalist?) YOU want a story, here's one "if you knew a fraction of what we guys (NASA) knew you'd NEVER SLEEP AGAIN" scary!
If true then they know there's stuff out there, hell, I know there's stuff out there, deep down you reading this right now knows this too but WHY the BIG scare? was he just showing off? or was there some TRUTH to it? or simply fed up with the Questions about Aliens & UFO's?
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1 year 10 months ago #2255
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Remember when I wrote i'd already disappeared DOWN the RABBIT hole?
Well I hadn't expected this some weeks later
uk.news.yahoo.com/rabbit-hole-leads-to-7...mplar-091220579.html
See, we don't even know what's upon our own PLANET so who's to say what's out there and if you have seen those shapes on CERES, PLUTO & even TITAN don't it make you think WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? and WHAT IF's?
And just in case your wondering & are new here here's just a few of the strange discoveries I've found, are they NATURAL? take a look and you tell me if they are? or not? but to my eyes they look VERY UNNATURAL & could say MAN-MADE but i'll go with ALIEN MADE too if needs be
Well who knows if that area just north of that main salts? structure (DEAD CENTRE) upon CERES is some form of compound or mining operation? some pictures show strange shapes and structures but then in others not but then that long almost walled like surround still looks strange to me.
And is there a ROVER heading around CERES like I thought? it's funny how it looks like such a thing and appears to have travelled past certain craters in one set of shots? but again who knows is it a fault on the camera?
But then there's this...
If you go to the DAWN 'CERES' NASA mission site you will find this photo there numbered PIA19567_hires
Here's the long shot taken by DAWN see if you can SPOT it?
NO? how about now?
Still nothing? find that CRATER (dead centre) then move off to your left of it and there in the middle of that small crater you come to just beneath that crater similar size to that centre crater and here you will find it.
Well I hadn't expected this some weeks later
uk.news.yahoo.com/rabbit-hole-leads-to-7...mplar-091220579.html
See, we don't even know what's upon our own PLANET so who's to say what's out there and if you have seen those shapes on CERES, PLUTO & even TITAN don't it make you think WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? and WHAT IF's?
And just in case your wondering & are new here here's just a few of the strange discoveries I've found, are they NATURAL? take a look and you tell me if they are? or not? but to my eyes they look VERY UNNATURAL & could say MAN-MADE but i'll go with ALIEN MADE too if needs be
Well who knows if that area just north of that main salts? structure (DEAD CENTRE) upon CERES is some form of compound or mining operation? some pictures show strange shapes and structures but then in others not but then that long almost walled like surround still looks strange to me.
And is there a ROVER heading around CERES like I thought? it's funny how it looks like such a thing and appears to have travelled past certain craters in one set of shots? but again who knows is it a fault on the camera?
But then there's this...
If you go to the DAWN 'CERES' NASA mission site you will find this photo there numbered PIA19567_hires
Here's the long shot taken by DAWN see if you can SPOT it?
NO? how about now?
Still nothing? find that CRATER (dead centre) then move off to your left of it and there in the middle of that small crater you come to just beneath that crater similar size to that centre crater and here you will find it.
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1 year 10 months ago #2256
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Paul Conway replied the topic: MARS made up of 20% of WATER (upto 1 mile deep)
So whilst this object within this small crater does look a little like that object i've often described as the rover THIS Is DIFFERENT or appears to be so.
First up is the obvious...it's SHAPE, it's SQUARE with flat lines when seen close up (as i'm about to show) THIS SHOULD NOT BE THERE but surely cannot be any kind of camera or photographic artefact error, it has an even more UNNATURAL man made look FORM to it.
But there are other things here which make me wonder if this is some form of BASE upon CERES...
There is a point within these 4 sides which looks to be slimmer as if it's perhaps some kind of gate or opening to the FORT like COURTYARD looking centre section...is that what it is?
It appears to be CASTING SHADOWS
There is another section sticking out from it at the top left edge, above this which may or may not be connected to another group of structures above this, looking like a tunnel? pathway? buildings? that appear to line up to the right heading close or into the actual right hand sided part of this crater.
WHAT's this all about?
There is even more strangeness...if you look closely at one of these photo's there are 2 dark dots also close by to the left of another structure that's also to the left of this main square fort like BASE structure, these 2 dots appear to be still be within this crater (to the right) but close to the top of it.
WHAT ARE THEY? without all the other shapes & structures here you might have thought they're nothing but if what we are looking at is what might be a BASE then they may well be equipment for mining? or even humans? creatures?
It's just such a strange shape....if for real? you cannot look at this and tell me that it's a natural structure as it's clearly NOT, if yet another so called artefact I would simply ask you HOW...HOW!!!! can such a thing LOOK like this as if it's what you might expect to see had it been for real, looks like a BASE (and there were rumours a similar structure was upon our MOON when a photograph was taken of a photograph during one of the Moon missions showing something similar a FORT like shape (SQUARE with Courtyard centre)
NOW I ask you seriously WHAT are the ODDS?
Unless someone proves to me otherwise I will FOREVER think a STRANGE UNNATURAL structure is up there upon CERES (and if THAT's there then who knows what else might be?)
First up is the obvious...it's SHAPE, it's SQUARE with flat lines when seen close up (as i'm about to show) THIS SHOULD NOT BE THERE but surely cannot be any kind of camera or photographic artefact error, it has an even more UNNATURAL man made look FORM to it.
But there are other things here which make me wonder if this is some form of BASE upon CERES...
There is a point within these 4 sides which looks to be slimmer as if it's perhaps some kind of gate or opening to the FORT like COURTYARD looking centre section...is that what it is?
It appears to be CASTING SHADOWS
There is another section sticking out from it at the top left edge, above this which may or may not be connected to another group of structures above this, looking like a tunnel? pathway? buildings? that appear to line up to the right heading close or into the actual right hand sided part of this crater.
WHAT's this all about?
There is even more strangeness...if you look closely at one of these photo's there are 2 dark dots also close by to the left of another structure that's also to the left of this main square fort like BASE structure, these 2 dots appear to be still be within this crater (to the right) but close to the top of it.
WHAT ARE THEY? without all the other shapes & structures here you might have thought they're nothing but if what we are looking at is what might be a BASE then they may well be equipment for mining? or even humans? creatures?
It's just such a strange shape....if for real? you cannot look at this and tell me that it's a natural structure as it's clearly NOT, if yet another so called artefact I would simply ask you HOW...HOW!!!! can such a thing LOOK like this as if it's what you might expect to see had it been for real, looks like a BASE (and there were rumours a similar structure was upon our MOON when a photograph was taken of a photograph during one of the Moon missions showing something similar a FORT like shape (SQUARE with Courtyard centre)
NOW I ask you seriously WHAT are the ODDS?
Unless someone proves to me otherwise I will FOREVER think a STRANGE UNNATURAL structure is up there upon CERES (and if THAT's there then who knows what else might be?)
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1 year 10 months ago #2257
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Is anyone seriously going to tell me this is nothing?
It looks basic enough for me to think that this is NOT alien but rather a HUMAN Base / Colony / or whatever you it might be? Scientific Research Station in co-operation with aliens perhaps (away from prying eyes) who knows?
But I just can't believe this is an artefact camera error looking like this? a square base with centre courtyard with other structures / buildings? to the left of it as well as a row of them above it along with those dots.
Yeah THAT's SOME artefact
MORE CLOSE UP's for you folks to make up your minds...
It looks basic enough for me to think that this is NOT alien but rather a HUMAN Base / Colony / or whatever you it might be? Scientific Research Station in co-operation with aliens perhaps (away from prying eyes) who knows?
But I just can't believe this is an artefact camera error looking like this? a square base with centre courtyard with other structures / buildings? to the left of it as well as a row of them above it along with those dots.
Yeah THAT's SOME artefact
MORE CLOSE UP's for you folks to make up your minds...
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1 year 10 months ago #2259
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And yes even those mounded structures out of the crater to the far right of these even look a little hmm suspicious & possibly have a connection to these crater structures.
Ground Control to MAJOR Tom
If a human CERES BASE it does make you think WHY would they release these photographs? when of course eventually someone might pick up on them, is it simply that this part of NASA knows nothing of this? or the opposite?
I actually feel it would almost be stranger if somehow confirmed that this is an error? because camera / photographic artefacts just shouldn't look like THIS!
And this is just CERES, Titan had a few strange shapes but I have to say although this BASE upon CERES is staggering if true? i'm still open to ideas folks? that it's not? but my FAVOURITE is PLUTO
I've looked for such a complex array of natural structures here on Earth, on Mars, on our Moon but I just can't find anything like it!!!!
Except if you look at a few ancient civilizations here on Earth which do have something of a look of this strange small long shaped rocky outcrop upon PLUTO (hell it even has that main area that actually looks like the Disney cartoon Dog...called PLUTO, they didn't know this shape existed when they named it but no one else finds that just a little bit strange?)
Well, yet again & because I am so curious about these shapes & would LOVE answers with regards to them here are a few of these photo's again.
Ground Control to MAJOR Tom
If a human CERES BASE it does make you think WHY would they release these photographs? when of course eventually someone might pick up on them, is it simply that this part of NASA knows nothing of this? or the opposite?
I actually feel it would almost be stranger if somehow confirmed that this is an error? because camera / photographic artefacts just shouldn't look like THIS!
And this is just CERES, Titan had a few strange shapes but I have to say although this BASE upon CERES is staggering if true? i'm still open to ideas folks? that it's not? but my FAVOURITE is PLUTO
I've looked for such a complex array of natural structures here on Earth, on Mars, on our Moon but I just can't find anything like it!!!!
Except if you look at a few ancient civilizations here on Earth which do have something of a look of this strange small long shaped rocky outcrop upon PLUTO (hell it even has that main area that actually looks like the Disney cartoon Dog...called PLUTO, they didn't know this shape existed when they named it but no one else finds that just a little bit strange?)
Well, yet again & because I am so curious about these shapes & would LOVE answers with regards to them here are a few of these photo's again.