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1 year 10 months ago #2334
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So, the EU reaches it's 60th Anniversary WELL DONE FOLKS but I have to wonder how long it will last?
Especially in it's present form?
The EU is about to lose the UK (THERE FAULT, NOT OURS) & if our Prime Minster has the backbone she appears to have she will NOT be held to ransom by them...THEY want 60 BILLION to withdraw from the EU!!!! where was that ever stated during the debate? & upon voting?
If true then someone should be called out on this & I would certainly try & get it back by other ways...can't believe this is True? is it?
I saw Claude Juncker interviewed again on the BBC, now perhaps it's because he did not like Mr Farage & he became weary of Britain not getting in line with their silly rules & changes that many here in Britain simply did not like or agree to...they pushed the ordinary people here too far (sure the Money Men didn't mind this but it wasn't hitting them)
I will admit he was a little more agreeable here but ONLY a little, he did say that they / he would be FAIR with regards to Brexit (we'll see) & as I am someone that I don't think would like Mr Juncker (to me he comes over as egotistical, I like the power so do as I say kind of man & woe betide you if you don't type) to me he has an ATTITUDE that I do not like (similar to Jeremy Corbyn but more angry) actually if we are talking about the LABOUR Party here in the UK, a party I would usually vote for i have to say it is BROKEN BEYOND BELIEF & it's not just Corbyn now it's the group of yes men & women he has within his shadow cabinet, hell there is even talk that they're trying to change the voting rules to get more union supported members to get their chance at leader of the party)
I WOULD NOT TRUST THAT LOT to run a Fish & Chip Shop, the TORIES unless something dramatic changes will win the next election by a LAND SLIDE because people like me will NOT vote for that man, God help us if he's in charge when terrorism takes place, our country is in my opinion NOT safe under him & his cabinet...The LABOUR PARTY did not just shoot themselves in the foot, they blasted both legs off leaving them nowhere to go but cap in hand to the UNIONS (who never helped my sister when she needed them too)
I did like when Juncker says he would TRY to play fair but honestly from the rubbish I've heard coming from EU leaders & the likes of Juncker I cannot see it, PLAY NICE & i'm sure we (being BRITISH) will do so also, WE ARE A FAIR & GOOD NATION...But Don't & we WILL PLAY HARDBALL & go for hard brexit seeking more trade deals with other parts of the world & if all those cars, wines, cheeses & the like from the EU want to be sold here in the UK instead of agreeing to nice compromise deals we should make them pay through the nose tariffs...YOU WANT to SCARE BRITAIN? we will SCARE the LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of YOU?
60 Billion from us get out money? is this a JOKE? as that was never mentioned & whilst many say we'll be worse off with tariffs and deals costing us I simply do not understand that whatsoever...even if that 60 Billion is something we will for some reason have to pay (it was never mentioned was it?) then in 2 years the EU SHOULD GET NOTHING from Britain, tariff deals should work out EVEN you'd have thought & the EU MONEY as was stated in the election be put to good use here in the UK.
Hopefully we'll find that old British way back, GOOD British values (just look at some of those wonderful folk a few days ago in LONDON) we'll create more jobs & items made for us by us...i'm in BATTLING MODE as should Prime Minister MAY & her backroom staff negotiating these deals.
The EU seem to think we are worried, WE ARE NOT WORRIED, this has been one of the BEST NATIONS in the WORLD & I can see no reason why it shall not continue to be so after Brexit in 2 years time, it is THEY that should be worried, NO more British money! so more pressures put upon the likes of FRANCE & GERMANY to give to help out the likes of TURKEY which they are thinking of admitting to the EU along with OTHERS? craziness.
Unelected officials making stupid rules & regulations made me & it would seem many others here in the UK Mad.
IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THIS WAY...WE SHOULD STILL BE IN THE EU...but it's run by well to do, power mad folks that were never elected by us to pass such rules & regulations.
IMMIGRANTS...there but for God's Grace could be any of us...WE GOT THE LUCKY TICKET & I will never have anything said against the GOOD ONE'S trying to better their lives, although quiet clearly a free and open EU in which as many as would like can move to any country was simply silly, there MUST be a cut-off each year depending on deaths, how many people have left the UK but the EU can't see this.
Our health system is already in trouble along with school places, rental properties and other such things...it's NOT little Britain it's just plain mathematics (although of course this does NOT affect the CITY SLICKERS)
Most ordinary people had simply had enough & sadly I think they were right BECAUSE the EU NEVER, EVER LISTENED to US (are those BIG enough capitals to spell it out to the EU)
A country that MORE THAN helped Europe over 2 WORLD WARS was so it seemed to me NEVER really treated with FAIRNESS & RESPECT.
Had the EU listened & taken action we would celebrating with the EU on this 60th.
So, the EU reaches it's 60th Anniversary WELL DONE FOLKS but I have to wonder how long it will last?
Especially in it's present form?
The EU is about to lose the UK (THERE FAULT, NOT OURS) & if our Prime Minster has the backbone she appears to have she will NOT be held to ransom by them...THEY want 60 BILLION to withdraw from the EU!!!! where was that ever stated during the debate? & upon voting?
If true then someone should be called out on this & I would certainly try & get it back by other ways...can't believe this is True? is it?
I saw Claude Juncker interviewed again on the BBC, now perhaps it's because he did not like Mr Farage & he became weary of Britain not getting in line with their silly rules & changes that many here in Britain simply did not like or agree to...they pushed the ordinary people here too far (sure the Money Men didn't mind this but it wasn't hitting them)
I will admit he was a little more agreeable here but ONLY a little, he did say that they / he would be FAIR with regards to Brexit (we'll see) & as I am someone that I don't think would like Mr Juncker (to me he comes over as egotistical, I like the power so do as I say kind of man & woe betide you if you don't type) to me he has an ATTITUDE that I do not like (similar to Jeremy Corbyn but more angry) actually if we are talking about the LABOUR Party here in the UK, a party I would usually vote for i have to say it is BROKEN BEYOND BELIEF & it's not just Corbyn now it's the group of yes men & women he has within his shadow cabinet, hell there is even talk that they're trying to change the voting rules to get more union supported members to get their chance at leader of the party)
I WOULD NOT TRUST THAT LOT to run a Fish & Chip Shop, the TORIES unless something dramatic changes will win the next election by a LAND SLIDE because people like me will NOT vote for that man, God help us if he's in charge when terrorism takes place, our country is in my opinion NOT safe under him & his cabinet...The LABOUR PARTY did not just shoot themselves in the foot, they blasted both legs off leaving them nowhere to go but cap in hand to the UNIONS (who never helped my sister when she needed them too)
I did like when Juncker says he would TRY to play fair but honestly from the rubbish I've heard coming from EU leaders & the likes of Juncker I cannot see it, PLAY NICE & i'm sure we (being BRITISH) will do so also, WE ARE A FAIR & GOOD NATION...But Don't & we WILL PLAY HARDBALL & go for hard brexit seeking more trade deals with other parts of the world & if all those cars, wines, cheeses & the like from the EU want to be sold here in the UK instead of agreeing to nice compromise deals we should make them pay through the nose tariffs...YOU WANT to SCARE BRITAIN? we will SCARE the LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of YOU?
60 Billion from us get out money? is this a JOKE? as that was never mentioned & whilst many say we'll be worse off with tariffs and deals costing us I simply do not understand that whatsoever...even if that 60 Billion is something we will for some reason have to pay (it was never mentioned was it?) then in 2 years the EU SHOULD GET NOTHING from Britain, tariff deals should work out EVEN you'd have thought & the EU MONEY as was stated in the election be put to good use here in the UK.
Hopefully we'll find that old British way back, GOOD British values (just look at some of those wonderful folk a few days ago in LONDON) we'll create more jobs & items made for us by us...i'm in BATTLING MODE as should Prime Minister MAY & her backroom staff negotiating these deals.
The EU seem to think we are worried, WE ARE NOT WORRIED, this has been one of the BEST NATIONS in the WORLD & I can see no reason why it shall not continue to be so after Brexit in 2 years time, it is THEY that should be worried, NO more British money! so more pressures put upon the likes of FRANCE & GERMANY to give to help out the likes of TURKEY which they are thinking of admitting to the EU along with OTHERS? craziness.
Unelected officials making stupid rules & regulations made me & it would seem many others here in the UK Mad.
IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THIS WAY...WE SHOULD STILL BE IN THE EU...but it's run by well to do, power mad folks that were never elected by us to pass such rules & regulations.
IMMIGRANTS...there but for God's Grace could be any of us...WE GOT THE LUCKY TICKET & I will never have anything said against the GOOD ONE'S trying to better their lives, although quiet clearly a free and open EU in which as many as would like can move to any country was simply silly, there MUST be a cut-off each year depending on deaths, how many people have left the UK but the EU can't see this.
Our health system is already in trouble along with school places, rental properties and other such things...it's NOT little Britain it's just plain mathematics (although of course this does NOT affect the CITY SLICKERS)
Most ordinary people had simply had enough & sadly I think they were right BECAUSE the EU NEVER, EVER LISTENED to US (are those BIG enough capitals to spell it out to the EU)
A country that MORE THAN helped Europe over 2 WORLD WARS was so it seemed to me NEVER really treated with FAIRNESS & RESPECT.
Had the EU listened & taken action we would celebrating with the EU on this 60th.
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1 year 9 months ago - 1 year 9 months ago #2335
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I think some of my inner raging HULK came out there!
I am (I like to think) a fairly mild mannered, polite & easy going type but I do have a RAGE within me at times when I sense things are not right & it's simply that every time I hear Juncker talk it's nearly ALWAYS in the negative with regards to Britain (even well before Brexit) & I do get the feeling (and it's NOT like me as i would listen to anyone and give them a chance) that I really would not like this fella, his whole demeanor to me says trouble.
And now we are getting some of the other EU countries chirping in saying Brexit will not be EASY, i do understand this but it's the way they say it & as if they are almost holding us to ransom for it!
AND after ALL THAT BRITAIN HAS DONE FOR EUROPE...WAY to TALK to us & TREAT us.
Well i can almost understand why the BAD, NEGATIVE VIBES from them, the EU to me is NOT being run well & properly and we are the first to figure this out so it's no wonder the majority of Britain voted out when given the chance...if only they had properly listened to Britain's concerns but that's the EU for you they do as they please & don't listen.
I am not a fan of Farage but perhaps in the long run he may well have done this country a great favour as even he saw the types there, picking up their easy money & smiling at the power & privilege they had...well hopefully after we are gone they'll see it needs changing? and who knows perhaps we will one day return with a more different & as Jincker himself says 'FAIRER' EU.
And with that i will leave you with this most iconic Vera Lynn song that helped Britain & reminds us of why we live in such a WONDERFUL & FAIR Land (anyone that saw that 100th Birthday Vera Lynn programme will know she's doing OK for 100 and it's clear that many of us LOVE her for what she did in WW2)
Sing it Vera...
I am (I like to think) a fairly mild mannered, polite & easy going type but I do have a RAGE within me at times when I sense things are not right & it's simply that every time I hear Juncker talk it's nearly ALWAYS in the negative with regards to Britain (even well before Brexit) & I do get the feeling (and it's NOT like me as i would listen to anyone and give them a chance) that I really would not like this fella, his whole demeanor to me says trouble.
And now we are getting some of the other EU countries chirping in saying Brexit will not be EASY, i do understand this but it's the way they say it & as if they are almost holding us to ransom for it!
AND after ALL THAT BRITAIN HAS DONE FOR EUROPE...WAY to TALK to us & TREAT us.
Well i can almost understand why the BAD, NEGATIVE VIBES from them, the EU to me is NOT being run well & properly and we are the first to figure this out so it's no wonder the majority of Britain voted out when given the chance...if only they had properly listened to Britain's concerns but that's the EU for you they do as they please & don't listen.
I am not a fan of Farage but perhaps in the long run he may well have done this country a great favour as even he saw the types there, picking up their easy money & smiling at the power & privilege they had...well hopefully after we are gone they'll see it needs changing? and who knows perhaps we will one day return with a more different & as Jincker himself says 'FAIRER' EU.
And with that i will leave you with this most iconic Vera Lynn song that helped Britain & reminds us of why we live in such a WONDERFUL & FAIR Land (anyone that saw that 100th Birthday Vera Lynn programme will know she's doing OK for 100 and it's clear that many of us LOVE her for what she did in WW2)
Sing it Vera...
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1 year 9 months ago #2354
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Interesting debate on Q-Time tonight on BBC1.
Whatever happens now & however you voted it's time to HOPE for BETTER Things & be OPTIMISTIC.
Whatever happens now & however you voted it's time to HOPE for BETTER Things & be OPTIMISTIC.