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WHAT is GOING on HERE? Apollo 17 CRASH Recovery?
1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #2499
by Paul Conway
Paul Conway created the topic: WHAT is GOING on HERE? Apollo 17 CRASH Recovery?
Ok folks...you knew it was coming...it's time for me to pin-point those objects that have got me curious here & really should you?
Why?
Well to my knowledge I have never ever seen this area upon the MOON before & believe me I would have remembered (I've looked and have not found ANY Apollo 17 Mission photographs that appear to show such an Area & the things seen here) WHY?
I don't think NASA are going to be very pleased with me but I am currently NOT too pleased with them either...but I will forgive them a little if someone from NASA let's me know just what it is we are looking at here? as there are some strange things here (once again) and also yet again these DO NOT LOOK NATURAL now DO THEY?
All things considered I think I've done a decent job of cropping down (to fit the files here) without losing too much that might be of interest in the photograph & adjusting the brightness & contrast & clarity to show what I think is something quiet EXTRA-ORDINARY? but I said that about PLUTO & no one battered an eye lid
This is a part of the Apollo 17 mission that was NEVER DISCLOSED & yet appears to have been captured within a reflection or was it cleverly done by the astronauts up there at that time? i'd LOVE to think so...THESE guys are REAL HEROES in my EYES, the nerve & courage it took to get up there in these things...and Princess Leigh thought HAN SOLO was brave coming to her aid in the 'Millienium Falcon" well he want's to try using one of these
foil covered craft..."THE RIGHT STUFF" is right.
Just what is happening here? well I have numbered some of the items & will get back to them after showing you the pictures.
Ok so I've said it before but that clearly bright or hot object that appears to be in two parts (broken? or by design?) and which even I thought must have been a reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor can now here clearly be seen to be NO SUCH THING...this is NOT the SUN.
So then...
1) Which can be seen in 2 parts (smaller to the left & larger part to the right)
It looks to have a CRACK? to it at the bottom angled at the bottom & also appears to be CRACKED? down the centre.
The segmented edges would appear to confirm that these two sides either come together or were at one moment complete (as they look like they would fit together)
It appears to have a little bit of depth to it & looks like it has a piped section to this right hand side.
It's very bright (reflective) so is it lit? powered? or simply white hot? (it fooled me into thinking it was our sun before zooming in on it)
It also leaves some shadows to the back of it.
So the BIG Question...WHAT DO WE THINK THIS IS?
WHAT is it MADE of? i'll have a stab at this one (whilst I think over the one above) to me it looks to be made of something HARD & substantial, so although I have mentioned previously that it might be material I don't really think so.
Could this be a craft or drone that has CRASHED upon the MOON? they knew of it & so as you i would have decided to check it out or might it be an experimental set-up? but for what? and looking at the size I would doubt this was included as cargo on Apollo 17 so where & when did it show up?
2) It's what I originally called the Arrow Head shaped structure but is clearly bigger than just a small arrow head.
It's NOT in keeping with other objects & rocks around it (but does look a little like one i found on PLUTO...remember THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE?)
What is it?
3) This is a curious thing over to the right of this MAIN WHITE OBJECT...it's shaped like? well like a candle (that appears to be spiralled in one of the shots?) I just don't know! it could well be a part of this 1st object? and it even looks like it might be fenced off? on the MOON fenced off??? why?
Who's going to tamper with it or alter it?
4) Structure wise? this is perhaps the STRANGEST SHAPED of them ALL.
Always difficult to figure out when you don't have CRYSTAL CLEAR SHOTS OF THIS AREA (which is surely what NASA have somewhere & which would CLEAR THINGS UP in NO TIME) but it actually does look like a RUIN or another part of this object as a whole...which is why I am leaning towards an AREA where they have discovered a CRASHED SHIP or DRONE & might be in the process of somehow recovering parts of it?
5) This is a funny little curious object...again, it does not really look like moon rock and has a kind of VASE look about it.
MAKE of it WHAT you WILL?
But to me this AREA does NOT LOOK RIGHT in regards to all of these objects so close to each other which don't look to be made of MOON ROCK but rather some other material? perhaps something we had never encountered upto this point? and a material which over this past 50 years or so we have been able to grapple with and re-create...OUR SPECIES can be quiet IMAGINATIVE & CLEVER when NEEDS BE.
It could be one of those rumoured domes? but I don't think so
It might be a DISH / ANTENNA of some kind...a Communications Device perhaps? but for who? us or them?
And what of all the surrounding objects? are they separate to this main one and others here? or are they ALL from the same object?
Did it CRASH ? or was it perhaps BROKEN some how? is it would appear to have a CRACK down the middle of it.
It is NOT what I at first thought it to be, a tower or beacon, I have dismissed this now as that top part which i thought was the top of such an object is in fact a shadow at the back of this object which I once thought was the SUN
COME ON FOLKS...i'm thinking hard & trying but it's difficult on my own...THERE are SOME clever, imaginative & intelligent types out there right now let's have your IDEAS? & THOUGHTS on this?
And I shall LEAVE you TONIGHT with THESE THOUGHTS issued by the WONDERDUL Mr Neil Armstrong (the 1st Man on the MOON) which was said by him towards the end of his 25th Anniversary speech of Apollo 11 (20th July 1994) I've posted the video previously here...
"We leave you much that is undone"
Ok so we get that right? there is always MORE to be DONE.
"Great ideas undiscovered"
Again, nothing too dramatic about this as there are a GREAT many things to be undiscovered but perhaps the wording used here 'ideas' is a little curious?
And then onto this...THE BIGGIE
"Breakthrough's available to those who 'CAN REMOVE ONE OF TRUTH'S PROTECTIVE LAYERS'"
Well this really is the biggie...just look at the wording here & don't forget the President of the United States was sat right beside him.
This is what MANY have considered to be THE CRYPYIC CLUE & one that shows that he & a good number of his fellow astronauts there on this day of the speech KNOW STUFF (but which for whatever reason they are just simply NOT allowed to disclose to the wider general public, like you & I)
WHY is THAT?...let's analyse a little more these curious words....
Breakthrough's available (no problem with this) to THOSE??? who CAN??? (so that's the powers that be & the TOP DOGS that can if they WANT TO? disclose to everyone) this 'TRUTHS PROTECTED by LAYERS' (this final bit is the cryptic part & the part that sparked controversay)
He's almost asking like us why DOES TRUTH? have to be PROTECTED by LAYERS? surely for the most part the TRUTH is always the way to go?
In effect I think, Mr Neil Armstrong was pretty much SAYING to US ALL...
We've been places, there is MUCH MORE to be DONE, IDEAS perhaps NOT taken up & used which perhaps should be & BREAK THROUGHs for we Humans if only someone at the TOP would break with PROTOCOL & the SECRETS they hold & REMOVE ALL OF THESE SECRETS for us ALL To SEE the TRUTH.
Well that's how I see it anyway.
He does end with this HOPEFUL bit...
"There are PLACES TO GO BEYOND BELIEF"
Well Mr Armstrong GOD BLESS YOUR SOUL i believe you are right & this I think doesn't just concern SPACE (if any of you folks reading this have seen the movie "DR STRANGE" you'll have seen that there are many other multi dimensional gateways just waiting to be discovered)
I KNOW it's ONLY a FILM & these have yet to be PROVEN...but it's ONLY a matter of TIME & TIME is something we may have MUCH OF
if you know what I mean...MASTER TIME & ANYTHING is POSSIBLE....which is what I've always said.
It was said within one of my ALL TIME FAVOURITE Tv Series "STAR TREK" and that opening title sequence...
"SPACE THE FINAL FRONTIER"
Well folks although SPACE (so long as we don't destroy ourselves & i wish i had the power to stop this!) is going to be FUN to EXPLORE i do think they might have got this very much wrong & that SPACE is NOT the FINAL FRONTER for us anymore, as Mr Spock later found out in STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE.
And FOR ALL US (hopefully) one day
THE HUMAN ADVENTURE is JUST BEGINNING
Why?
Well to my knowledge I have never ever seen this area upon the MOON before & believe me I would have remembered (I've looked and have not found ANY Apollo 17 Mission photographs that appear to show such an Area & the things seen here) WHY?
I don't think NASA are going to be very pleased with me but I am currently NOT too pleased with them either...but I will forgive them a little if someone from NASA let's me know just what it is we are looking at here? as there are some strange things here (once again) and also yet again these DO NOT LOOK NATURAL now DO THEY?
All things considered I think I've done a decent job of cropping down (to fit the files here) without losing too much that might be of interest in the photograph & adjusting the brightness & contrast & clarity to show what I think is something quiet EXTRA-ORDINARY? but I said that about PLUTO & no one battered an eye lid
This is a part of the Apollo 17 mission that was NEVER DISCLOSED & yet appears to have been captured within a reflection or was it cleverly done by the astronauts up there at that time? i'd LOVE to think so...THESE guys are REAL HEROES in my EYES, the nerve & courage it took to get up there in these things...and Princess Leigh thought HAN SOLO was brave coming to her aid in the 'Millienium Falcon" well he want's to try using one of these
foil covered craft..."THE RIGHT STUFF" is right.
Just what is happening here? well I have numbered some of the items & will get back to them after showing you the pictures.
Ok so I've said it before but that clearly bright or hot object that appears to be in two parts (broken? or by design?) and which even I thought must have been a reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor can now here clearly be seen to be NO SUCH THING...this is NOT the SUN.
So then...
1) Which can be seen in 2 parts (smaller to the left & larger part to the right)
It looks to have a CRACK? to it at the bottom angled at the bottom & also appears to be CRACKED? down the centre.
The segmented edges would appear to confirm that these two sides either come together or were at one moment complete (as they look like they would fit together)
It appears to have a little bit of depth to it & looks like it has a piped section to this right hand side.
It's very bright (reflective) so is it lit? powered? or simply white hot? (it fooled me into thinking it was our sun before zooming in on it)
It also leaves some shadows to the back of it.
So the BIG Question...WHAT DO WE THINK THIS IS?
WHAT is it MADE of? i'll have a stab at this one (whilst I think over the one above) to me it looks to be made of something HARD & substantial, so although I have mentioned previously that it might be material I don't really think so.
Could this be a craft or drone that has CRASHED upon the MOON? they knew of it & so as you i would have decided to check it out or might it be an experimental set-up? but for what? and looking at the size I would doubt this was included as cargo on Apollo 17 so where & when did it show up?
2) It's what I originally called the Arrow Head shaped structure but is clearly bigger than just a small arrow head.
It's NOT in keeping with other objects & rocks around it (but does look a little like one i found on PLUTO...remember THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE?)
What is it?
3) This is a curious thing over to the right of this MAIN WHITE OBJECT...it's shaped like? well like a candle (that appears to be spiralled in one of the shots?) I just don't know! it could well be a part of this 1st object? and it even looks like it might be fenced off? on the MOON fenced off??? why?
Who's going to tamper with it or alter it?
4) Structure wise? this is perhaps the STRANGEST SHAPED of them ALL.
Always difficult to figure out when you don't have CRYSTAL CLEAR SHOTS OF THIS AREA (which is surely what NASA have somewhere & which would CLEAR THINGS UP in NO TIME) but it actually does look like a RUIN or another part of this object as a whole...which is why I am leaning towards an AREA where they have discovered a CRASHED SHIP or DRONE & might be in the process of somehow recovering parts of it?
5) This is a funny little curious object...again, it does not really look like moon rock and has a kind of VASE look about it.
MAKE of it WHAT you WILL?
But to me this AREA does NOT LOOK RIGHT in regards to all of these objects so close to each other which don't look to be made of MOON ROCK but rather some other material? perhaps something we had never encountered upto this point? and a material which over this past 50 years or so we have been able to grapple with and re-create...OUR SPECIES can be quiet IMAGINATIVE & CLEVER when NEEDS BE.
It could be one of those rumoured domes? but I don't think so
It might be a DISH / ANTENNA of some kind...a Communications Device perhaps? but for who? us or them?
And what of all the surrounding objects? are they separate to this main one and others here? or are they ALL from the same object?
Did it CRASH ? or was it perhaps BROKEN some how? is it would appear to have a CRACK down the middle of it.
It is NOT what I at first thought it to be, a tower or beacon, I have dismissed this now as that top part which i thought was the top of such an object is in fact a shadow at the back of this object which I once thought was the SUN
COME ON FOLKS...i'm thinking hard & trying but it's difficult on my own...THERE are SOME clever, imaginative & intelligent types out there right now let's have your IDEAS? & THOUGHTS on this?
And I shall LEAVE you TONIGHT with THESE THOUGHTS issued by the WONDERDUL Mr Neil Armstrong (the 1st Man on the MOON) which was said by him towards the end of his 25th Anniversary speech of Apollo 11 (20th July 1994) I've posted the video previously here...
"We leave you much that is undone"
Ok so we get that right? there is always MORE to be DONE.
"Great ideas undiscovered"
Again, nothing too dramatic about this as there are a GREAT many things to be undiscovered but perhaps the wording used here 'ideas' is a little curious?
And then onto this...THE BIGGIE
"Breakthrough's available to those who 'CAN REMOVE ONE OF TRUTH'S PROTECTIVE LAYERS'"
Well this really is the biggie...just look at the wording here & don't forget the President of the United States was sat right beside him.
This is what MANY have considered to be THE CRYPYIC CLUE & one that shows that he & a good number of his fellow astronauts there on this day of the speech KNOW STUFF (but which for whatever reason they are just simply NOT allowed to disclose to the wider general public, like you & I)
WHY is THAT?...let's analyse a little more these curious words....
Breakthrough's available (no problem with this) to THOSE??? who CAN??? (so that's the powers that be & the TOP DOGS that can if they WANT TO? disclose to everyone) this 'TRUTHS PROTECTED by LAYERS' (this final bit is the cryptic part & the part that sparked controversay)
He's almost asking like us why DOES TRUTH? have to be PROTECTED by LAYERS? surely for the most part the TRUTH is always the way to go?
In effect I think, Mr Neil Armstrong was pretty much SAYING to US ALL...
We've been places, there is MUCH MORE to be DONE, IDEAS perhaps NOT taken up & used which perhaps should be & BREAK THROUGHs for we Humans if only someone at the TOP would break with PROTOCOL & the SECRETS they hold & REMOVE ALL OF THESE SECRETS for us ALL To SEE the TRUTH.
Well that's how I see it anyway.
He does end with this HOPEFUL bit...
"There are PLACES TO GO BEYOND BELIEF"
Well Mr Armstrong GOD BLESS YOUR SOUL i believe you are right & this I think doesn't just concern SPACE (if any of you folks reading this have seen the movie "DR STRANGE" you'll have seen that there are many other multi dimensional gateways just waiting to be discovered)
I KNOW it's ONLY a FILM & these have yet to be PROVEN...but it's ONLY a matter of TIME & TIME is something we may have MUCH OF
if you know what I mean...MASTER TIME & ANYTHING is POSSIBLE....which is what I've always said.It was said within one of my ALL TIME FAVOURITE Tv Series "STAR TREK" and that opening title sequence...
"SPACE THE FINAL FRONTIER"
Well folks although SPACE (so long as we don't destroy ourselves & i wish i had the power to stop this!) is going to be FUN to EXPLORE i do think they might have got this very much wrong & that SPACE is NOT the FINAL FRONTER for us anymore, as Mr Spock later found out in STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE.
And FOR ALL US (hopefully) one day
THE HUMAN ADVENTURE is JUST BEGINNING
1 year 8 months ago #2500
by Paul Conway
Paul Conway replied the topic: WHAT is GOING on HERE? Apollo 17 CRASH Recovery?
Oh & i will leave you with this shot of this area which i'm really rather pleased with if the TRUTH 
be SAID.
be SAID.
1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #2501
by Paul Conway
Paul Conway replied the topic: WHAT is GOING on HERE? Apollo 17 CRASH Recovery?
Oh one more thing before I retire to bed.
Have you noticed how this MAIN, bright or hot OBJECT appears to have been positioned? higher up on this grounded rock.
What I cannot (for now anyway) make out is if this whole AREA has been EXCAVATED?
Although if you look at those two similar photo's you may notice at the back of this bright main object that it is casting some shadows on what does appear to be moon rock / soil that might? have been dug giving what appears to be almost like a wall type around it with these shadows.
If it has then this is truly THRILLING...because 1) it would mean this is an OBJECT they knew of & one of importance and b) it might confirm that Arthur C Clarke's 2001 was indeed based on something he was told & which he crafted a story around 'The Sentinel'
Would be AMAZZING if proven to be an ALIEN communications DEVICE? what's your BETS? I certainly would never watch that film in the same light again.
Another thought has occurred to me & it's a FUN ONE...Have they unearthed Lunar Mission One's predissesor from hundreds if not thousands of years ago it might even be one from the future?
They invented time travel & left this here for us to discover those hidden protective layers & that we have in effect ALL been dead for years (as we are NOT living in the PRESENT but rather the PAST)
Now that's got you thinking a bit huh?
Have you noticed how this MAIN, bright or hot OBJECT appears to have been positioned? higher up on this grounded rock.
What I cannot (for now anyway) make out is if this whole AREA has been EXCAVATED?
Although if you look at those two similar photo's you may notice at the back of this bright main object that it is casting some shadows on what does appear to be moon rock / soil that might? have been dug giving what appears to be almost like a wall type around it with these shadows.
If it has then this is truly THRILLING...because 1) it would mean this is an OBJECT they knew of & one of importance and b) it might confirm that Arthur C Clarke's 2001 was indeed based on something he was told & which he crafted a story around 'The Sentinel'
Would be AMAZZING if proven to be an ALIEN communications DEVICE? what's your BETS? I certainly would never watch that film in the same light again.
Another thought has occurred to me & it's a FUN ONE...Have they unearthed Lunar Mission One's predissesor from hundreds if not thousands of years ago
it might even be one from the future?They invented time travel & left this here for us to discover those hidden protective layers & that we have in effect ALL been dead for years (as we are NOT living in the PRESENT but rather the PAST)
Now that's got you thinking a bit huh?
1 year 8 months ago #2503
by Paul Conway
Paul Conway replied the topic: WHAT is GOING on HERE? Apollo 17 CRASH Recovery?
Broadsword calling DANNY BOY...come in Danny BOY.
We have found the sentinel.
Can you confirm it is sending out a message?...OVER.
Confirmed, messages are being sent to...DUN DUN DUNNN "PLUTO"
What's it say? OVER
"They have reached their NEXT STEP in EVOULTION & have reached the MOON setting foot here for the 1st time"
GREAT!!!!
Urmm there's a follow up...
"But they're still a bunch of WAR like A Holes (my tribute to Guardians of the Galaxy film...FUN line that I thought) so BEST to KEEP Ya Distance"
We have found the sentinel.
Can you confirm it is sending out a message?...OVER.
Confirmed, messages are being sent to...DUN DUN DUNNN "PLUTO"
What's it say? OVER
"They have reached their NEXT STEP in EVOULTION & have reached the MOON setting foot here for the 1st time"
GREAT!!!!
Urmm there's a follow up...
"But they're still a bunch of WAR like A Holes (my tribute to Guardians of the Galaxy film...FUN line that I thought) so BEST to KEEP Ya Distance"