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1 year 5 months ago #3082
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Paul Conway created the topic: Well it LOOKS like a 1960's TV CAMERA on the MOON?
I mentioned this in passing over on the LCROSS Subject & half laughed but the more I LOOK at it the more I think NAH, REALLY?
Like I said...if such a thing? then I still think we went to the MOON (if not then well done folks...a SUPER DUPER 'Cover Up') but why the hell continue such a CHARADE some 50 YEARS On!!!
More likely if it is an old 60's Style TV CAMERA & CABLING seen in Shadow that this was one of those RUMOURED re-shoots (although they clearly couldn't have done this whilst up there on the MOON? or could they?)
Gezzz i LOVE the film "CAPRICORN ONE" but surely NOT for REAL???
It's a CURIOUS Shot I've discovered & don't forget this IMAGE was taken from a REFLECTION & then ZOOMED in so it's NO WONDER we don't have any real Photographic shots of this AREA from NASA as it's either...
1) PART of a TV STUDIO Set up on the other side of this Astronaut being photographed (complete with Light Reflectors which in the photo itself many WOULD mistake logically for THE SUN (for what else could it be? you would simply assume this right? this is that BIG WHITE THING in 2 parts) along with something that does look suspiciously like an old TELEVISION CAMERA of the TIME)
So maybe the rumours WERE TRUE & I've just UNCOVERED it...Neil (Armstrong) would be PROUD i think?
OR
It's the thing i originally stated...THAT THIS is a SECRET MISSION AREA? well LOOK AT THIS PLACE? we never saw any of this on the NASA MOON Pictures and if not a reflective light source for filming FAKE Sunlight et al then WHAT IS IT?
Looks like it's in 2 PARTS (Broken? is it a CRASHED SHIP? PROBE?)
Interesting Stuff! i really should have been a SPY
Take a look at the comparisons i think you may find them interesting too...
At least something to THINK ABOUT huh? even i didn't really believe those stories!
Like I said...if such a thing? then I still think we went to the MOON (if not then well done folks...a SUPER DUPER 'Cover Up') but why the hell continue such a CHARADE some 50 YEARS On!!!
More likely if it is an old 60's Style TV CAMERA & CABLING seen in Shadow that this was one of those RUMOURED re-shoots (although they clearly couldn't have done this whilst up there on the MOON? or could they?)
Gezzz i LOVE the film "CAPRICORN ONE" but surely NOT for REAL???
It's a CURIOUS Shot I've discovered & don't forget this IMAGE was taken from a REFLECTION & then ZOOMED in so it's NO WONDER we don't have any real Photographic shots of this AREA from NASA as it's either...
1) PART of a TV STUDIO Set up on the other side of this Astronaut being photographed (complete with Light Reflectors which in the photo itself many WOULD mistake logically for THE SUN (for what else could it be? you would simply assume this right? this is that BIG WHITE THING in 2 parts) along with something that does look suspiciously like an old TELEVISION CAMERA of the TIME)
So maybe the rumours WERE TRUE & I've just UNCOVERED it...Neil (Armstrong) would be PROUD i think?
OR
It's the thing i originally stated...THAT THIS is a SECRET MISSION AREA? well LOOK AT THIS PLACE? we never saw any of this on the NASA MOON Pictures and if not a reflective light source for filming FAKE Sunlight et al then WHAT IS IT?
Looks like it's in 2 PARTS (Broken? is it a CRASHED SHIP? PROBE?)
Interesting Stuff! i really should have been a SPY
Take a look at the comparisons i think you may find them interesting too...
At least something to THINK ABOUT huh? even i didn't really believe those stories!
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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #3083
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Paul Conway replied the topic: Well it LOOKS like a 1960's TV CAMERA on the MOON?
I'm ACTUALLY beginning to SCARE myself a little bit
And with this a link to the BRILLIANT film that got me CURIOUS as a kid...
CAPRICORN ONE.
If we did FAKE the whole of these MOON Missions SOMEHOW? then come on UNLEASH the BURDEN...Go on ADMIT it (and the reasons why it was done?) & DON'T DO IT AGAIN when we head to MARS & PLUTO & the other places for HERE lies DISCOVERY.
And with this a link to the BRILLIANT film that got me CURIOUS as a kid...
CAPRICORN ONE.
If we did FAKE the whole of these MOON Missions SOMEHOW? then come on UNLEASH the BURDEN...Go on ADMIT it (and the reasons why it was done?) & DON'T DO IT AGAIN when we head to MARS & PLUTO & the other places for HERE lies DISCOVERY.
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1 year 5 months ago #3084
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Paul Conway replied the topic: Well it LOOKS like a 1960's TV CAMERA on the MOON?
Well i certainly don't want to end up as BRUBAKER (or rather i do, he's still ALIVE by the end of the film)
I just showed this to some folks & they agreed it has a LOOK of an OLD 1960's TV / FILM CAMERA that is pointing down to that 3rd ASTRONAUT? and there do appear to be CABLES here too leading from this object (CAMERA)
Let's just HOPE they didn't FAKE ALL the APOLLO Missions...You would NOT believe HOW DISAPPOINTED i would be...NOT that they'll let us know.
So it's up to you folks...WHAT DO YOU THINK did i uncover the smoking GUN?
Is this an AREA captured within that reflection (during APOLLO 17) that is actually showing a TV STUDIO trying to recreate SUNLIGHT through this REFLECTION DEVICE? and with an OLD 60's CAMERA pointing down to this 3rd ASTRONAUT (well we all know 3 astronauts have never been on the MOON at the same time!)
I have to say it looks STRANGE....over 50 YEARS AGO!
Gezzz if TRUE they really need to come CLEAN about it NOW...HUMANS huh? i know it was THE COLD WAR back then but WILL WE EVER LEARN?
We need to be a better SPECIES.
I could be wrong & if not a camera facing downwards with old fashioned viewfinder, cables etc THEN what is it?
And this reflective device now makes a lot more sense too.
In TRUTH i hope i am WRONG but i got a BAD FEELING about this!
I'm one of the GOOD GUYS & if i figured it...GREAT but it will ONLY CHANGE THINGS if those in charge themselves have the GUTS to say SO.
Otherwise who's to say if the same trick might be done sometime?
I'm now kinda wondering if this was PINEWOOD? probably NOT Kubrick Directing as this was APOLLO 17 (and well after 2001 had been filmed)
It is i think you will agree INTERESTING & the parts seem to fit together wouldn't you say?
Arghhh I LOVE SPACE & SPACE DISCOVERY & EXPLORATION but i didn't EVER expect to be perhaps turning the tables & coming down on the side of the FAKED MOON LANDINGS Brigade....I HATE THIS!
SOMEONE Prove to me i'm wrong & this is NOT an old 1960's STUDIO CAMERA
I just showed this to some folks & they agreed it has a LOOK of an OLD 1960's TV / FILM CAMERA that is pointing down to that 3rd ASTRONAUT? and there do appear to be CABLES here too leading from this object (CAMERA)
Let's just HOPE they didn't FAKE ALL the APOLLO Missions...You would NOT believe HOW DISAPPOINTED i would be...NOT that they'll let us know.
So it's up to you folks...WHAT DO YOU THINK did i uncover the smoking GUN?
Is this an AREA captured within that reflection (during APOLLO 17) that is actually showing a TV STUDIO trying to recreate SUNLIGHT through this REFLECTION DEVICE? and with an OLD 60's CAMERA pointing down to this 3rd ASTRONAUT (well we all know 3 astronauts have never been on the MOON at the same time!)
I have to say it looks STRANGE....over 50 YEARS AGO!
Gezzz if TRUE they really need to come CLEAN about it NOW...HUMANS huh? i know it was THE COLD WAR back then but WILL WE EVER LEARN?
We need to be a better SPECIES.
I could be wrong & if not a camera facing downwards with old fashioned viewfinder, cables etc THEN what is it?
And this reflective device now makes a lot more sense too.
In TRUTH i hope i am WRONG but i got a BAD FEELING about this!
I'm one of the GOOD GUYS & if i figured it...GREAT but it will ONLY CHANGE THINGS if those in charge themselves have the GUTS to say SO.
Otherwise who's to say if the same trick might be done sometime?
I'm now kinda wondering if this was PINEWOOD? probably NOT Kubrick Directing as this was APOLLO 17 (and well after 2001 had been filmed)
It is i think you will agree INTERESTING & the parts seem to fit together wouldn't you say?
Arghhh I LOVE SPACE & SPACE DISCOVERY & EXPLORATION but i didn't EVER expect to be perhaps turning the tables & coming down on the side of the FAKED MOON LANDINGS Brigade....I HATE THIS!
SOMEONE Prove to me i'm wrong & this is NOT an old 1960's STUDIO CAMERA
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1 year 5 months ago - 1 year 5 months ago #3086
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Paul Conway replied the topic: Well it LOOKS like a 1960's TV CAMERA on the MOON?
Some ENDING this isn't it?
The President's speech being made (a GOOD one too), the music slowly building (the film has a GREAT SOUNDTRACK from JERRY GOLDSMITH) and Brubaker making himself known to everyone...Can you imagine if ANYTHING like this ever did happen? & not just as a GIMMICK but for real.
Some GREAT Dialogue here too (especially from the WONDERFUL actor HAL HOLBROOK, he played FATHER MALONE in the Original 1980 Horror classic THE FOG) from Dr Callaway who is some CHARACTER, the head of NASA that needs the MONEY to CONTINUE ROLLING IN and so will do whatever it takes to keep it rolling in, TRULY CHILLING!
"A funny thing happened on the way to MARS"
I LOVE just about every scene in this movie (and that is pretty unusual) for me it is an under-rated CLASSIC (of it's type)
Great cast, acting, dialogue, soundtrack, action, it's funny (Elliot Gould & Telly Savalas meeting up for the first time & negotiating for the hiring of his plane is hilarious) it's heart breaking (story to the kids in bed) it's got great practical effects...do ya get I DIG IT!
The talk in the Tv Studio with Callaway & Brubaker is a SUPER Scene!
"Please, you have to HELP"
"This thing is outta my hands, you think it's all a couple of loony scientists, it's NOT, it's BIGGER, there are people out there, FORCES out there who have a lot to LOSE, they're GROWN UP's! it's got too BIG, it's in the hands of GROWN Up's"
A 1978 film of FANTASY ? Hmmm
Directed by PETER HYAMS who I have a lot of respect but who seems to have been forgotten (take a look at the films he's directed, you may be surprised at just how many of them are GOOD one's) one of these is a terrific attempt at matching perhaps the GREATEST Science Fiction MOVIE of ALL-TIME '2001' but I have to say "2010" is a solid & very interesting effort.
SO...A CAMERA on the MOON?
Well clearly not.
The ONE thing I do know & have figured out is that this photograph from APOLLO 17 seemingly showing an ASTRONAUT posing for a PHOTO next to the U.S.A. FLAG with the ROVER in front of him & the PLANET EARTH behind him is ???
Well it's NOT what it seems!
It may well be a genuine photograph taken on the MOON (I am really hoping so? because for me, this is a BETTER STORY) because if it is then this reflection I have showed you here is of something NASA NEVER SHOWED us in proper photographs?
WHY NOT? Did something CRASH, is it an EXPERIMENT (Secret one)
There are all kinds of things back here...So if on the MOON? as we expect & hope then this STUFF back there is CLEARLY of importance but JUST WHAT IS IT? and the things to the sides of this a pole...also in front of this is a strange almost ANTENNA thing.
Was this the rumoured thing Arthur C. Clarke was told about before he wrote 'THE SENTINEL' did we find such a thing like 'THE MONOLITH' but differently shaped?
If it is a POSED for STUDIO SHOT then clearly they have never come out & told us?
In which case it was passed off (FAKED) as a photograph taken on the MOON...but that's not the SUN in the Astronauts Helmet Reflection I think I have PROVED this to you all now (for it is this amazing REFLECTIVE WHITE 2 Piece PANEL Set seen here...what are they? if such a thing they are pretending to pass itself off as the SUN? but it isn't!)
And if such a thing then then it may well follow that this to the side of it is a 1960's TV/FILM Studio camera? with cables.
I have to say the more I see it the more it looks like a 3rd astronaut figure (there were only 2 on the MOON at one time that we KNOW OF) and that a camera is looking down to him with the cables below & so perhaps that is some form of equipment trying to be SUN like?
So many QUESTIONS...
Like so why FAKE IT if you were ACTUALLY on the MOON at that time? EARTH in the wrong place?
I SWEAR if you were to have a told a younger version of myself who was into NASA big time that I would eventually figure stuff out just by viewing their OWN Photographs & that what we were seeing WAS STUFF THEY WERE 'NOT' Acknowledging I would have said NO WAY!!!
NASA would LET US KNOW about such things...
Something STRANGE found on the MOON (a Pyramid? a Base? (one they tried to bomb out of existance? their photo shows it!) or perhaps even a UFO (Crashed? perhaps?) or ALIEN SKULL? they'd let us know.
They would tell us about the REAL things FOUND on MARS...again I've found some weird things from their own photographs! THOSE are NOT ROCKS! they would call a Press Conference & let us know for sure!
They would surely tell us if a MISSION to CERES discovered a small SQUARE BASE in one of the SMALLER CRATERS right?
OR if DOZENS of HUGE Craft showed up around a broken SHUTTLE Experiment...they would tell us right?
They wouldn't LIE to us whilst watching a LIVE SHUTTLE feed pointing out shooting stars!!! whilst searching for the RUSSIAN CREW whilst STRANGE CRAFT came from NOWHERE into VIEW & that took up different positions close to EARTH...of course they would let us know about such things!
And a little PLANET now RELEGATED to a DWARF PLANET (probably due to some maths scientist calculations?) called 'PLUTO' would have a mission sent to it in which something TRULY REMARKABLE was DISCOVERED...a small rocky outcrop measuring some 22 miles (approx.) across would be seen with so many different shapes, objects & structures upon it as to make it LAUGHABLE if they were NEVER to RELEASE such information to the general public as it's so plainly OBVIOUS when you see it (and especially after a few ZOOMED clicks in) that many of them are ARTIFICIAL in NATURE including something close to the centre of this place that is so manufactured / created that it actually does look like a SCULPTURE of a FACE!
APOLLO 17 will take a PHOTOGRAPH of something TOTALLY 'Alien' in NATURE, looking like a combination of Swiss Cheese & Egyptian Structures but they will hide it for years & only release it years later (with NO FANFARE) on the WEB but will still never CONFIRM such a thing was ever seen & taken even though it's RIGHT THERE (and can be seen in the Rover's Camera Cross hairs at the back of it!!! so NO ARTEFACTS...camera or photographic error!)
Don't be silly CHRIS (Aged 7 & a Half) of course NASA would LET EVERYONE on PLANET EARTH know of THESE THINGS!
BLESS YOU my little NAIVE boy, you will grow up & sadly you will find many are NOT like you (mostly those in charge) they will NOT being HONEST with you young fella...YOU will need to try & FIGURE IT OUT for YOURSELF ?
"I Did"
The President's speech being made (a GOOD one too), the music slowly building (the film has a GREAT SOUNDTRACK from JERRY GOLDSMITH) and Brubaker making himself known to everyone...Can you imagine if ANYTHING like this ever did happen? & not just as a GIMMICK but for real.
Some GREAT Dialogue here too (especially from the WONDERFUL actor HAL HOLBROOK, he played FATHER MALONE in the Original 1980 Horror classic THE FOG) from Dr Callaway who is some CHARACTER, the head of NASA that needs the MONEY to CONTINUE ROLLING IN and so will do whatever it takes to keep it rolling in, TRULY CHILLING!
"A funny thing happened on the way to MARS"
I LOVE just about every scene in this movie (and that is pretty unusual) for me it is an under-rated CLASSIC (of it's type)
Great cast, acting, dialogue, soundtrack, action, it's funny (Elliot Gould & Telly Savalas meeting up for the first time & negotiating for the hiring of his plane is hilarious) it's heart breaking (story to the kids in bed) it's got great practical effects...do ya get I DIG IT!
The talk in the Tv Studio with Callaway & Brubaker is a SUPER Scene!
"Please, you have to HELP"
"This thing is outta my hands, you think it's all a couple of loony scientists, it's NOT, it's BIGGER, there are people out there, FORCES out there who have a lot to LOSE, they're GROWN UP's! it's got too BIG, it's in the hands of GROWN Up's"
A 1978 film of FANTASY ? Hmmm
Directed by PETER HYAMS who I have a lot of respect but who seems to have been forgotten (take a look at the films he's directed, you may be surprised at just how many of them are GOOD one's) one of these is a terrific attempt at matching perhaps the GREATEST Science Fiction MOVIE of ALL-TIME '2001' but I have to say "2010" is a solid & very interesting effort.
SO...A CAMERA on the MOON?
Well clearly not.
The ONE thing I do know & have figured out is that this photograph from APOLLO 17 seemingly showing an ASTRONAUT posing for a PHOTO next to the U.S.A. FLAG with the ROVER in front of him & the PLANET EARTH behind him is ???
Well it's NOT what it seems!
It may well be a genuine photograph taken on the MOON (I am really hoping so? because for me, this is a BETTER STORY) because if it is then this reflection I have showed you here is of something NASA NEVER SHOWED us in proper photographs?
WHY NOT? Did something CRASH, is it an EXPERIMENT (Secret one)
There are all kinds of things back here...So if on the MOON? as we expect & hope then this STUFF back there is CLEARLY of importance but JUST WHAT IS IT? and the things to the sides of this a pole...also in front of this is a strange almost ANTENNA thing.
Was this the rumoured thing Arthur C. Clarke was told about before he wrote 'THE SENTINEL' did we find such a thing like 'THE MONOLITH' but differently shaped?
If it is a POSED for STUDIO SHOT then clearly they have never come out & told us?
In which case it was passed off (FAKED) as a photograph taken on the MOON...but that's not the SUN in the Astronauts Helmet Reflection I think I have PROVED this to you all now (for it is this amazing REFLECTIVE WHITE 2 Piece PANEL Set seen here...what are they? if such a thing they are pretending to pass itself off as the SUN? but it isn't!)
And if such a thing then then it may well follow that this to the side of it is a 1960's TV/FILM Studio camera? with cables.
I have to say the more I see it the more it looks like a 3rd astronaut figure (there were only 2 on the MOON at one time that we KNOW OF) and that a camera is looking down to him with the cables below & so perhaps that is some form of equipment trying to be SUN like?
So many QUESTIONS...
Like so why FAKE IT if you were ACTUALLY on the MOON at that time? EARTH in the wrong place?
I SWEAR if you were to have a told a younger version of myself who was into NASA big time that I would eventually figure stuff out just by viewing their OWN Photographs & that what we were seeing WAS STUFF THEY WERE 'NOT' Acknowledging I would have said NO WAY!!!
NASA would LET US KNOW about such things...
Something STRANGE found on the MOON (a Pyramid? a Base? (one they tried to bomb out of existance? their photo shows it!) or perhaps even a UFO (Crashed? perhaps?) or ALIEN SKULL? they'd let us know.
They would tell us about the REAL things FOUND on MARS...again I've found some weird things from their own photographs! THOSE are NOT ROCKS! they would call a Press Conference & let us know for sure!
They would surely tell us if a MISSION to CERES discovered a small SQUARE BASE in one of the SMALLER CRATERS right?
OR if DOZENS of HUGE Craft showed up around a broken SHUTTLE Experiment...they would tell us right?
They wouldn't LIE to us whilst watching a LIVE SHUTTLE feed pointing out shooting stars!!! whilst searching for the RUSSIAN CREW whilst STRANGE CRAFT came from NOWHERE into VIEW & that took up different positions close to EARTH...of course they would let us know about such things!
And a little PLANET now RELEGATED to a DWARF PLANET (probably due to some maths scientist calculations?) called 'PLUTO' would have a mission sent to it in which something TRULY REMARKABLE was DISCOVERED...a small rocky outcrop measuring some 22 miles (approx.) across would be seen with so many different shapes, objects & structures upon it as to make it LAUGHABLE if they were NEVER to RELEASE such information to the general public as it's so plainly OBVIOUS when you see it (and especially after a few ZOOMED clicks in) that many of them are ARTIFICIAL in NATURE including something close to the centre of this place that is so manufactured / created that it actually does look like a SCULPTURE of a FACE!
APOLLO 17 will take a PHOTOGRAPH of something TOTALLY 'Alien' in NATURE, looking like a combination of Swiss Cheese & Egyptian Structures but they will hide it for years & only release it years later (with NO FANFARE) on the WEB but will still never CONFIRM such a thing was ever seen & taken even though it's RIGHT THERE (and can be seen in the Rover's Camera Cross hairs at the back of it!!! so NO ARTEFACTS...camera or photographic error!)
Don't be silly CHRIS (Aged 7 & a Half) of course NASA would LET EVERYONE on PLANET EARTH know of THESE THINGS!
BLESS YOU my little NAIVE boy, you will grow up & sadly you will find many are NOT like you (mostly those in charge) they will NOT being HONEST with you young fella...YOU will need to try & FIGURE IT OUT for YOURSELF ?
"I Did"
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